Thanks for posting this. I like the interior of the new K900, but I'm not fond of the new exterior look. That and the fact that Kia decided to replace the V8 with a twin turbo six also means I won't be looking to replace my 2015 any time soon.

 

Welcome, I think the exact opposite though, love the way the exterior looks, and am really excited that they added turbos.

The twin-turbo V6 will be much much faster than the V8, and opens the market for aftermarket tuning.

I can tell you now that the LAP3 Uncle Chip Tune we sell will make between 75-82 hp just by plugging it in. (Same as the Stinger)

Although I have no interest in getting another K900, my 2015 was a boat and my old 2012 Kia Optima was faster 0-60.

 

Misc rumblings:
1) Pano roof? Hope Kia will bring that and the one on the video is just a pre-production...
2) So long as the sporty handling doesn't interfere with the existing car's land-yacht ride, I'm all for it.
3) K900 doesn't sell well in North America due in no small part to having no separate luxury batch AND dealership. Can this new car, impressive as it is, cure this flaw? I'm cheering from the sidelines but am afraid one can't fight the laws of luxury car marketing.

 

Tesla. Yes that was predictable. Why are you even on this forum, bashing the K900? It doesn’t seem like a good way to promote your sales website. Keep your pompous bragging to the electric forums.

You are still comparing a Twin Turbo V6 to a naturally aspirated V8. It’s probably going to cost more in the end anyway. If I’m going that route, it would be a Twin Turbo V8 then.

 

Tesla. Yes that was predictable. Why are you even on this forum, bashing the K900? It doesn't seem like a good way to promote your sales website. Keep your pompous bragging to the electric forums.

You are still comparing a Twin Turbo V6 to a naturally aspirated V8. It's probably going to cost more in the end anyway. If I'm going that route, it would be a Twin Turbo V8 then.

Sounds like someone's getting upset just from having a healthy conversation where someone shares a difference of opinion with you. Not once did I ever bash the K900, you are confused yet again.

Furthermore, I have been on this forum since it was created as I was an owner of a 2015 Kia K900 myself. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that I'm bashing the car, and there was no pompous bragging. I am just stating facts since you seem to want to debate the topic.

I'm the one that created this thread sharing the information with the community and you chose to challenge and argue that a V8 engine was better even though I owned the V8 5.0 liter engine and it was slow and heavy like a boat. The new Kia K900 model coming out will outrival the old V8 model in every way. I'm sorry you disagree and had to turn around and make this into a personal an attack against me, instead of having a healthy conversation and debate about it.

I'm a member of this forum just like you are and have the right to share my opinion just as much as you do, regardless of whether or not I work as a vendor selling products to the community as well.

Try and have a better day!

 

K5 Optima Store has been a supporting member and parts supplier since the inception of this forum.
They have carried all sorts of parts and supplies for the Optima, Cadenza and the K900. Without
people like them we may not even have a forum.
I have had an Optima, a Cadenza, and a K900. Right know I drive a Genesis G90. After the
new model K900 is a year old I may buy a used CPO, So try and stay updated myself.
K5 optima had one of the coolest looking blue wrap cars we have seen.
Play nice guys, everyone is welcome here

 

I'm with Gene that everybody should play nice, here and everywhere.

Regarding engines, though, I agree with joelischynski. In my opinion, a nice stout NA V8, turning some easy low revs, gives a smoother, quieter response than any turbo mill, and will be less of a maintenance headache in the long run. A few 10ths of a second 0-60, either way, will never be noticeable in real-world driving.

That said, given the conspicuous lack of sales success the previous car had, you can see why Kia felt they had nothing to lose by trying something new. I also suspect that word coming down from corporate headquarters may have played a role--pushing the K900 back to six cylinders opens up more daylight between it and the new Genesis brand.

Me, I'm still on the hunt for the perfect '16 or '17.

 

Me, I'm still on the hunt for the perfect '16 or '17.

Hope your days of "intending" will soon come to an end...

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inven...ltersModified=true&sortType=undefined&sortDirection=undefined#listing=202163091

 

Agree w/ Gene and K9Intender: play nice.

Turbo V6 vs V8: my take is not on which one is faster 0-60 but the general trend in automakers shying away from V8s. Think this has to do w/ fuel efficiency (or at least the optics of it) and increasingly strict emission standards. The flame-throwing (just kidding) part of my argument is the engine sound. Excluding the effects of muffling, NA engines sound the best (air-cooled in particular)!

Regarding Kia K900 marketing in the US:
1) There was never any question K900 is a great car. The challenge is marketing hi-end autos in a mass-market shop. The impact is not just on K900. Care to count how many Cadenzas you see on the road?
2) After the initial euphoria, dealers may be reluctant to stock K900s since they're not selling and thus put a drag on floor plan financing. And then spiral goes down from there. No inventory = no buyer interest (after net-browsing, potential buyers wants to go to showroom to feel/touch the car; and no car = no sale prospect).
3) Kia may not care how much the K900 sales in the US; since the main battle is fought in Europe and Asia for this car. Worst case this becomes a halo for Kia in North America. Kia will simply coerce US dealers (more precisely the selected few eligible to sell K900s) into ordering for showroom and there aren't much dealers can do. So the dealers will play nice and each order 1 at most 2.
4) I suppose somewhere along the line Kia did a cost/benefit and include it is not worth the investment of a premium channel like Hyundai did w/ Genesis. This Genesis experiment is still out. While I see quite a few G80, the truly hi-end G90s are still a rare sight, albeit not as rare as K900. I think the Genesis bet will ultimately become successful. It just needs a full line of automobiles (small-mid-fullsize sedans and SUVs, w/ a 2-door premium thrown in).
5) How to resolve the problem that Hyundai/Genesis/Kia have poor resale values, now, that's the big question...

 

You are right about the lack of Cadenzas! I hadn't paid any attention until I got interested in the K900, but since then I've had an eye open for Kias and I've been surprised at how few Cadenzas there are around. Of course, the whole midsize sedan segment is declining, and apparently even the new Accord is not doing so well.

Accord Sales Are Declining, so Honda Figures You Might Like a Cheaper Lease - The Truth About Cars

I don't think Kia is putting up much of a fight in the European large sedan market. I was just there recently and didn't see any evidence for K9/K900s at all, although I did see some ads for the Stinger (but no actual cars).

 

Well, that car checks most of my boxes, mdude--white/white, VIP option, CPO, good miles, decent price--but it's a '15 and I've decided on a '16 or '17. I want the autonomous braking, touch screen, and paddle shifters.

I realize I've put myself into a tricky box here. With over 3,000 '15s on the road, it's easy to get one. There were only about 1200 total for the next two model years, so they're rare, and one meeting my requirements is likely to be rarer still. But I'm willing to be patient.

 

I like the look of the new car, typically don't go for something this large but if they keep the price close to the Stinger and offer similar lease deals as the current gen K900, I might just forgo a Stinger. David, you are all over in the KIA forums! Good to see you here!

 

Hey there, glad to see you over here on this forum as well.

 

We owned a Tesla, lost it to Hurricane Harvey - great car but I think the future is Hydrogen fuel cells or more hybrids. Combustible engines are the norm because of gas stations. When charging stations are everywhere then you will have real change. But I digress - these arguments are moot. The K900 is KIA's attempt to change hearts and minds. Brand, brand, brand. I remember when I was told that we would buy a 25K Toyota called Lexus and I laughed. I literally laughed. Boy was I wrong.

 

I leased a 2018 Genesis G90 with the 5.0 V-8. I test drove the V-6tt, and have a friend who owns one with the V-6tt.
Sorry guys but unless you chip tune the V-6 it does not beat the V-8. 0-60 it is almost as fast due to the early torque,
But from there on up no compresence V-8 is just better.
This is the same V-6tt that is in the K900.
I will admit I would have leased a V-6tt if it had the same equipment in the rear seat as the V-8.
My friend and I have kept track of our MPG, with about the same driving habits( nothing is exact) close to the same
driving pattern, as to city and highway. He has .4 mpg better than I do, so forget gas savings with the V-6tt
But then too v-8 vs v-6tt is subjective and goes more to preference than anything else. Seems to me the biggest
difference to what we like is our age.