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post #201 of 367 Old 04-12-2019, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
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Wow this looks awesome! Where did you get those? Was the process of removing and putting the new ones on difficult? Didn't know this is offered from a 3rd party.
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I got the full 7 piece set. They are just overlays, not full badge replacements so they are relatively easy to install for the wheels and steering wheel. The tricky part is the front and rear. The KIA logo letters are plastic pieces glue'd on the carbon fiber looking curved surface. I used a heat gun on low and a metal scraper to gently pry them off the OEM badge. You just need to take your time and use care to get them off. Once off, use a little goo-gone to clean up any left over adhesive from the letters. It's not terribly difficult but when you just purchased a $60k car, there's a bit of instinctive aversion to taking a heat gun to you car to pry off the letters. Once you're over that, it's fine.

The steering wheel is very easy to put on but you'll likely be honking the horn when you press it on. The wheel overlays are relatively easy but they include an extra 3M adhesive piece that you need to apply to existing KIA emblem that helps bridge the spacing to the new vintage K badge.

If you order them from Emblems Only, the K900 part defaults to Pre 2019 version where the badge overlays are a bit smaller than the 2019. You need to put in the special order instructions that your car is a 2019 and that you want the 130mm front and back badges.

Just take your time and get positioned well as you apply each piece. You got one shot to line it up and then press and hold for 60 seconds on the edges.

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Anyone running an ipod via apple lightning cable? if you, on playlist with more than 100 song do you maintain the full functionally of the "swipe to scroll" function on you radio? For some reason mine does not. I have tried multiple 6gen ipods with different apple lighting cables, all with the same result. For some reason it works just fine on an older ipod with the old school 30 pin connection? The dealer is convinced that I need to purchase the $60 "KIA special" ipod cable and that will solve my problem. I called the KIA 1-800 and they are so sure the problem is not with the cable that they are willing to send me a free cable after the dealer test the USB port to make sure it ain't fault. Just want to see if the problem is just with my car or did KIA miss a line of code somewhere in there.
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Anyone running an ipod via apple lightning cable? if you, on playlist with more than 100 song do you maintain the full functionally of the "swipe to scroll" function on you radio? For some reason mine does not. I have tried multiple 6gen ipods with different apple lighting cables, all with the same result. For some reason it works just fine on an older ipod with the old school 30 pin connection? The dealer is convinced that I need to purchase the $60 "KIA special" ipod cable and that will solve my problem. I called the KIA 1-800 and they are so sure the problem is not with the cable that they are willing to send me a free cable after the dealer test the USB port to make sure it ain't fault. Just want to see if the problem is just with my car or did KIA miss a line of code somewhere in there.
I don't use Apple products so I can't comment about your 6th gen iPod, but in general but since I work for a tech company in the automotive market place I know that some cables just don't measure up when it comes to speed profiles and power draw. For the case with LG smart phones many USB-C to to A cables just don't work with Android Auto on these head units. Cables DO matter so it's not out of the possibility that sub par lightning cable is causing problems.

I'm a it surprised you are still using an iPod and not using Apple Car Play from your iphone. Would it not be easier to keep all your play lists in the apple cloud and be able to use your voice commands to control it all?

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I don't use Apple products so I can't comment about your 6th gen iPod, but in general but since I work for a tech company in the automotive market place I know that some cables just don't measure up when it comes to speed profiles and power draw. For the case with LG smart phones many USB-C to to A cables just don't work with Android Auto on these head units. Cables DO matter so it's not out of the possibility that sub par lightning cable is causing problems.

I'm a it surprised you are still using an iPod and not using Apple Car Play from your iphone. Would it not be easier to keep all your play lists in the apple cloud and be able to use your voice commands to control it all?
Initially, I thought the same thing about the cable so I complained to apple who sent me two brand new "Apple" cables (different lengths). I even tried the "gas station $5 special" All with the same result. Not an iPhone user so have no need for car play. I also found that when I tried to run it off of Bluetooth the sound quality and functionality was even more limited than it is now. I also frequently jump around between sat fm and ipod based playlist. Have about 500+ cds I slowly rolling into various playlists. Previously I had a Lexus which was one of the last hold out still throwing in a dash CD player.
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Does anybody have an idea why the new update for the 2019 K900 shows “currently not available” The new features look interesting, I would love to update the map.

https://www.kia-gpsmap.us/map-update...019-v13-0.html

The version on my K900 is 11.47.44.462.0061 – the now version regarding to KIA is NA.12.41.51.592 (V13.0)
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Does anybody have an idea why the new update for the 2019 K900 shows “currently not available” The new features look interesting, I would love to update the map.

https://www.kia-gpsmap.us/map-update...019-v13-0.html

The version on my K900 is 11.47.44.462.0061 – the now version regarding to KIA is NA.12.41.51.592 (V13.0)
Because it's not out just yet. Mapnsoft creates updates once a year for all Kia and Hyundai model vehicles and it's usually some time in May. The reason is that they discount the price of previous year maps to flush out the inventory. Expect the price of the update to be over $200. They'll send you an SD card or USB drive with the update on it and you can flash it yourself via the infotainment screen. Since I mainly use Android Auto I have a hard time justifying upgrading the maps every year for that price considering the list of what's changed since the last revision that came with the car.

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Because it's not out just yet. Mapnsoft creates updates once a year for all Kia and Hyundai model vehicles and it's usually some time in May. The reason is that they discount the price of previous year maps to flush out the inventory. Expect the price of the update to be over $200. They'll send you an SD card or USB drive with the update on it and you can flash it yourself via the infotainment screen. Since I mainly use Android Auto I have a hard time justifying upgrading the maps every year for that price considering the list of what's changed since the last revision that came with the car.
Thank you for this info. I thought when there is a new detailed version number the update file exists already but obviously not yet released. Surprised it costs this much, I had a Mazda CX-9 Signature before, this car came with a 3 year free map update and was updated like 3 times/year. It was just a download/update to a SD-card, nothing I received in the mail.
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Well my battery depletion issue came back yesterday. The car had been parked in the garage for 5 days and not started but I had been in and out of it unlocking/locking with the welcome theatrics a few times during the week. I'd also been in the trunk as well during this parked time.

I knew something was wrong when the driver door would not unlock with the fob in my pocket. I was able to unlock with the press of the unlock button the fob. Once I got in, the car would not start. Says it could not detect the fob and to press the fob against the start button. Still nothing. I went back into the house to grab the other fob and same thing. Then, on the cluster I saw the message about "battery drained due to plugged in devices" which was not true. Nothing was plugged in at all. The battery was so weak, I couldn't open the trunk. FYI, the physical key in the fob can unlock the trunk, but the electric motor's grip on the actuators still puts great resistance on actually manually lifting the trunk lid. This is definitely a design flaw so be careful about putting a battery jumper in the back trunk because if your battery dies, you won't be able to get the trunk open.

I then opened the hood and found the jump points for the electric in top left corner. The positive and ground points are in two different locations and the little pigtail on my little lithion battery jumper could not spread to reach both points (This is something I would not have expected). I tried another portable battery jump starter I had that included longer cables and attempted to jump start the battery but that jump starter was not fully charged itself and the attempted jump failed to fully start the car.

At this point, I called the KIA concierge and they dispatched a service to my home to jump start the car but it was over a 90 minute wait. I grabbed my 6 amp trickle smart charger and charged the K900 battery for a good 20 minutes. I also charged my jump starter for 15 minutes as well. I then pulled the trickle charger off and put the jump starter back on and then successfully started the k900. Using my digital volt meter, the running car was sitting at 13.1 volts. This told me that the battery was still pretty weak and was taking all the current from the alternator that it could handle. I then called back KIA and told them to cancel the service coming out to my house as I didn't need them anymore.

I kept the car running for about 40 minutes and drove it for some errands (never turning it off). When I got home, I checked the voltage and it was sitting at 14.2 so it seemed like the battery was leveling off with the charge. On a side note I really wish the car had a voltage meter somewhere on the cluster.

I've scheduled an appointment at one of my local K900 dealers to check the electrical system in a couple of weeks. This battery drain thing is happening only after days of the car not starting but accessing the car via unlocking, opening doors, trunks, etc... My guess is that there's something pulling way too much current when the car wakes up to do the welcome acknowledgement, operate the power locks and trunk and continues to stay active although the car never is started. Either that, or the battery I have is just a plain dud. Either way I'm going to get to the bottom of this problem. The car should not deplete it's battery for sitting for 5 days regardless of unlocking/locking it and operating the trunk occasionally.

I'm also going to have them adjust the low beam cutoff up a little as I think it's throw is a bit short when they are checking the electric.

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Well my battery depletion issue came back yesterday. The car had been parked in the garage for 5 days and not started but I had been in and out of it unlocking/locking with the welcome theatrics a few times during the week. I'd also been in the trunk as well during this parked time.

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I've scheduled an appointment at one of my local K900 dealers to check the electrical system in a couple of weeks. This battery drain thing is happening only after days of the car not starting but accessing the car via unlocking, opening doors, trunks, etc... My guess is that there's something pulling way too much current when the car wakes up to do the welcome acknowledgement, operate the power locks and trunk and continues to stay active although the car never is started. Either that, or the battery I have is just a plain dud. Either way I'm going to get to the bottom of this problem. The car should not deplete it's battery for sitting for 5 days regardless of unlocking/locking it and operating the trunk occasionally.
I didn't have an opportunity to respond to this sooner than now. When my K900 was in to look at a deep dash rattle, they had the entire dash taken apart. Because I knew the car was going to be parked for a few weeks, I asked the service manager about flatspotting on the tires. He decided to start the car up and just move it around the lot once every couple of days. It was during one of these times, he told me the car was very slow to start and that he theorized that something that was disconnected from the dash being apart was causing unusually high battery drain. Now, he wasn't sure of course and since I basically drive my K900 everyday, I haven't seen this issue yet. However, that doesn't mean my car doesn't have the same problem you're experiencing; it's just that the conditions of use between you and I aren't the same and so the issue just may not have come to light. Please keep us posted on what your dealer days.

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I'm also going to have them adjust the low beam cutoff up a little as I think it's throw is a bit short when they are checking the electric.
This one I am curious about. I expect the dealer's response will be to check the pattern against specs and go from there. If it is out of spec, they should adjust it; if it's within specs, they probably won't. Personally, I don't think the low beam cutoff is an issue for me, but that also doesn't mean our two K900s were made the exact same way. I also don't have anyway to measure the cutoff of mine to compare ours. You said in another post that they procedure to adjust the headlights required a computer to readjust the leveling feature, correct? Also keep us posted on what they do here.

On another note: did you say before you had a Galaxy S9 phone you were using to connect to your K900 via bluetooth? If so, have you experienced any skipping/stuttering of bluetooth audio? Also, does Android Auto work everytime you plug your cable in? Lastly, what version of Android is your phone on? Oreo (v8.x) or Pie (v9.x)?
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So sorry to read about the problems you have with your car. I too have my K900 in the garage for a whole week and no such problems. I believe your problem with the battery can only have one of two reasons, either your battery is a dud or there is some battery drain for some reason. I tried but cannot think of any other reasons.

I just came back from a 400 miles trip and think the low beam cutoff is just right but yours might be different.

I’m still crazy about our K900. When the first maintenance is due I’m going to ask them if they can turn on the sequential blinkers via the service menu, this would be cool.

I’m really curious about the cause of your battery issue and the deep dash rattle from bverant
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