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Closest would be a new bmw 3 series. It was very quiet, and the interior had comparable fit and finish. The BMW has always been more of a drivers car, and that was evident with the Kia's slower clumsier shifting. I would imagine the Kia is marketed more towards the luxury cruiser than the sports sedan. I.e. I managed to over heat the brakes with a short stint of hard driving.

For the price, you get a lot more options on the Kia, the headlights turning around corners works suprisingly well.

The other thing, for good or bad is it doesn't quite look like a $60,000 car. Everyone knows a BMW is a luxury car, but the Kia badge lets it slip by others.

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But look at what you get. If you have to have a BMW badge then by all means buy a much smaller BMW3 for near the same price.
You will have to go with a 7 series to get everything the K900 has. Now look at the price of that. Whoa $120,000
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Glad you enjoyed your ride, hardus77, but I don't myself think the K is very comparable to any of the BMW's. (Although as Gene notes, the equipment is most like a 7 series.) As you note, it's just not designed and marketed for the same audience.

I would guess it gets cross-shopped more against Cadillac and Lincoln and maybe Lexus.

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The K900 is a "Luxury" car. Other are "Luxury Sport" cars. You cant really compare the two since all others are all making Luxury Sport now. The K900 is what the Lexus, Cadillac, Buick, Lincon luxury cars were on 1st offerings.

Since they (other car manufacturers) moved the goal post... The reviewers cannot honestly compare this car to those.
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I drove a '15 K900 a few weeks ago. First impressions compared to my Cadenza:

Cadenza: you feel like you're riding on the vehicle (or at least up higher).
K900: you're in the vehicle - you feel more surrounded by the car.

Cadenza: you can feel it's lighter, but it doesn't feel as planted.
K900: is heavier, but handles its weight well - feels more planted and substantial.

Cadenza: 6-spd tranny sometimes leaves me wishing for more gears (Haven't driven an 8-spd Cadenza recently).
K900: 8-spd tranny seems well-done, makes driving quick and smooth.

Cadenza: 3.3 V6 has good power but a little peaky. I sometimes wish for a bit more.
K900: 5.0 V8 has meaty powerband and doesn't need to rev to move quickly.

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Interesting comparison, Kia-Driver. I haven't driven a Cadenza, but I'm ready to disagree a bit on the K's 8-speed. To me, it seems to hunt gears too much and crimps the engine's ability. I think fewer gears would serve it better, actually.

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Good point. I'm sure the torque curve on the V8 is much wider than the V6, so fewer gears would work well (though gas mileage might suffer a bit).

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(though gas mileage might suffer a bit).
Oh, yeah, for sure! But if that's your priority, you ain't driving a K anyway.
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I come from the realm of Subaru (prior to '16) and they got away with 4-speed autos on many of their lower-end cars for way too long, because of the boxer's wide powerband. (Only 1 of my four had that 4-speed auto. Two had 5-spd manuals, and one had 5-spd auto)

The K900 started its life with its Hyundai-designed 8-speed (so we can't compare 8-spd vs 6-spd directly), but the pre-2012 Hyundai Equus had a 6-spd.
Unfortunately that 6-spd was paired with a 4.6L V8, not the 5.0L.

2011 Equus 4.6 w/ 6-spd auto: 16/24 mpg
2012 Equus 5.0 w/ 8-spd auto: 15/23 mpg
2015 K900 5.0 w/ 8-spd auto: 15/23 mpg

That slight mpg advantage is likely due to the smaller engine size, but maybe it might have been better with an 8-spd.

Cadenza '14-'16 w/ 3.3 V6 & 6-spd is rated at 19/28
Cadenza '17-'19 w/ 3.3 V6 & 8-spd is rated at 20/28

That's a very slight advantage, and that's not the whole story as Kia detuned the 3.3 slightly to help with mpg. It went from 293 hp to 290hp, and 255 ft-lbs to 253 ft-lbs of torque.

My '16 Sedona SX is rated at 18/25 w/ 6-spd (though most other trims are rated 18/24 (due to hydraulic power steering vs electric in the SX)
The '19 Sedona SX is rated at 18/24 w/ 8-spd (all trims rated the same)

I think I just proved that there's basically no difference in mpg between 6-spd & 8-spd autos, so I retract my parenthetical statement that gas mileage might suffer a bit by going to a 6-speed.

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Just to make a fair comparison, you should probably make allowances for overdrive gears. I have read that the top three in the 8-speed are all OD (which seems a lot).

Which brings up another small annoyance regarding the transmission--I wish you could see what gear it's in in auto mode. I'd like to know how much of that OD it's really using.

But you can only see gears when using the paddle shifters--that makes the dash display switch from P/D/R to gear numbers.

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